>> the sky will fall if you don't deal with the debt ceiling. but i think unfortunately, this is the price that we pay in the fiscal cliff deal. the democrats paid. i said at the time that i thought it was a short term victory for the democrats, but a long term victory for the republicans because we gave away our leverage on tax increases. so, sure, i have no objection to giving away the carried interest on some of the projects and loophole, but the fact is we're not in position to do that and i think we ought to get serious about the deficit and the best way to get serious about the deficit is go right over the cliff. the likelihood of having a real agreement between the white house and the conservative republicans is pretty close to zero. so i think we should take our medicine now. i don't think our sky are fall if we take the sequesters. i think from a democratic view, it's the only way we'll get the kind of defense cuts that we really need to get and we need to take our medicine. >> what i'm hearing is you disagree with the president and you